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Witam, mam chatynkę 'dom w werbenach 5' i doszłam już do położenia stropu. Zdecydowaliśmy się na żerań bo podobno miał być tańszy i mocniejszy. Co do mocniejszy to się zgadzam ale co do 'tańszy'??? to chyba nie.
Ile wyszedł was strop lany lub terriva? Koszt jaki mnie spotkał to (jak na razie) 12,600 ( 10,400 same płyty+ 2,200 sprzęt i dowóz) a to jeszcze nie koniec bo braki (nad wykuszem, balkony) trzeba dolać. KOszt wyjdzie jakieś 125 zł za metr).
Chyba podstawową zaletą jest to że jeśli się zamówi płyty odpowiednio wcześniej to nie trzeba ani dnia czekać na schnięcie stropu (jak w przypadku reszty) tylko można budowac od razu.
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U mnie podobnie jak u EZS.
około 10.000pln na beton, pompę, stal, pustaki, belki, benzynę, stemple, deski, gwoździe, drut i inne pierdoły.
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Czyli że w sumie... jeżeli piszecie że 60 m2 kosztowało was 10tyś to nie powinnam narzekać jeśli wyjdzie powiedzmy 15-16tyś za około 135m2 stropu?
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Fpmuzyka, dokładnie. Myślę, że Twoje koszty mieszczą się w "widełkach". Choć, raczej nastawiałbym się na 20tyś. Najwyżej coś Ci zostanie w kieszeni. icon_smile.gif W co wątpię.
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....Chyba podstawową zaletą jest to że jeśli się zamówi płyty odpowiednio wcześniej to nie trzeba ani dnia czekać na schnięcie stropu (jak w przypadku reszty) tylko można budowac od razu.


I tak trzeba wylac wieniec, a ze jest on w tym miejscu, w ktorym pozniej muruje sie sciany to praktycznie nie ma to znaczenia.
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terriva ok 60 m2
strop 5200, murarz 1000, stal 1100, beton 2700
razem 10 000 zł




W Toruniu strop kosztuje 73 zł za metr kwadratowy. Sami położyliśmy taki strop. Dźwig kosztował 150 zł a 70 mkw stropu to koszt 6 tyś zł + kilka taczek betonu i koszt wieńca.
Wieniec musi być przy każdym stropie. Wytrzymałość ogromna i czas montażu 3 godziny. Od razu można obciążać i nie czekać aż coś wyschnie........jest cichy i nie klawiszuje.
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witam u mnie 100m2 plyty zeranskiej z dowozem i polozeniem kosztowalo prawie 10000zl(luty2010 ukladanie)) pieknie poomijane kominy i wykusz wyciety(plyty z ukosnymi rogami) do wylewania mialem tylko 0,50m*3,50m wiec spoko.Pozdrawiam
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Wychodzi na to że stara dobra płyta ma się jednak bardzo dobrze! icon_wink.gif U mnie wykusz trzeba będzie dolać (nie miałam płyty ciętej pod kątem). Koszt żerania mam na fakturze 75zł za metr- czyli podobnie jak Toruń. Troszkę przedrożyły mi sprawę płyty strunowe - potrebne były aż 3 bo nie chcieliśmy mieć podciągów na stropie jakby to było w przypadku krótszych płyt. Strunowe mamy o długości 8,50 (przez całą szerokość domu- bo nie ma tam ścian nośnich i nie byłoby o co opszeć żerania).
Chyba mi się buzia zaczyna uśmiechać jak piszecie że taki strop to 'fajny' strop icon_wink.gif
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Wychodzi na to że stara dobra płyta ma się jednak bardzo dobrze! icon_wink.gif U mnie wykusz trzeba będzie dolać (nie miałam płyty ciętej pod kątem). Koszt żerania mam na fakturze 75zł za metr- czyli podobnie jak Toruń. Troszkę przedrożyły mi sprawę płyty strunowe - potrebne były aż 3 bo nie chcieliśmy mieć podciągów na stropie jakby to było w przypadku krótszych płyt. Strunowe mamy o długości 8,50 (przez całą szerokość domu- bo nie ma tam ścian nośnich i nie byłoby o co opszeć żerania).
Chyba mi się buzia zaczyna uśmiechać jak piszecie że taki strop to 'fajny' strop icon_wink.gif
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Wszystko idzie do przodu. Także technologia produkcji płyt żerańskich. Teraz mają inne zamki, które pozwalają dokładnie je spasować i zabezpieczyć przed klawiszowaniem, które występuje w Terrivie. Moim skromnym zdaniem jest zdecydowanie lepszy od stropu gęstożebrowego. Zamawiając stosunkowo wcześnie taki strop można wykonać wycięcia i różne otwory w płytach. W moim przypadku było to podcięcie na komin. Wytrzymałość stropu stawia go na czele i nie musimy się martwić o rozmieszczenie ścian działowych na piętrze.
A w Terrivie należy stosować dodatkowe zabiegi jak żebro rozdzielcze i tylko w tym miejscu budować ściany.
Dzięki modułowym szerokościom można dobrać do każdego pomieszczenia. A czas realizacji na budowie jest śmiesznie krótki. U mnie ponad 70m stropu układaliśmy nieco ponad 2 godziny.No i jest bardziej dzwiękochłonny niż Terriva.
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Wszystko idzie do przodu. Także technologia produkcji płyt żerańskich. Teraz mają inne zamki, które pozwalają dokładnie je spasować i zabezpieczyć przed klawiszowaniem, które występuje w Terrivie. Moim skromnym zdaniem jest zdecydowanie lepszy od stropu gęstożebrowego. Zamawiając stosunkowo wcześnie taki strop można wykonać wycięcia i różne otwory w płytach. W moim przypadku było to podcięcie na komin. Wytrzymałość stropu stawia go na czele i nie musimy się martwić o rozmieszczenie ścian działowych na piętrze.


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No mam już koszt całkowity dla żerania na 135m2 -
płyty żerań: 6,400
płyty spirol: 4,000 (długie ponad 8m)
transport + dżwig: 2,200
beton do zalania szczelin, balkonów i wieńca: 2,500
pompa+transport: 420zł

Razem: 15,520 zł

wychodzi na metr: 114zł

Chyba jednak dobry zakup!
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popatrz, a ja 3 lata temu usiłowałam znależć płyty strunowe i jakoś nie mogłam trafić na wykonawcę, który by chciał sprzedać "drobnicę". Zwykle te płyty zamawiają na duże obiekty i wtedy nie 2 ale 50 icon_biggrin.gif
No i moj majster nie bardzo wiedział jak do tego podejśc, bo mówił coś o jakiś poduszkach i w ogóle, że strunowe opiera się inaczej, niż żerań. Zniechęcił mnie,,
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No mam już koszt całkowity dla żerania na 135m2 -
płyty żerań: 6,400
płyty spirol: 4,000 (długie ponad 8m)
transport + dżwig: 2,200
beton do zalania szczelin, balkonów i wieńca: 2,500
pompa+transport: 420zł

Razem: 15,520 zł

wychodzi na metr: 114zł

Chyba jednak dobry zakup!


Nie widze stali do balkonu i wienca, kosztu szalunku wienca i robocizny. Wtedy moznaby mowic o koszcie kompletnego stropu na 1 m2.
Dla porownania mnie strop lany (znaczy sie zelbetowy) kosztowal ok 100 zl/m2 - koszt calkowity.
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Coś mi sie widzi, że majster zniechecił Cie, nie dlatego, że jest to złe rozwiązanie, po prostu nie wiedział jak to zrobić albo mu się nie chciało.

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No to niezła cena.
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Wychodzi na to że stara dobra płyta ma się jednak bardzo dobrze! icon_wink.gif U mnie wykusz trzeba będzie dolać (nie miałam płyty ciętej pod kątem). Koszt żerania mam na fakturze 75zł za metr- czyli podobnie jak Toruń. Troszkę przedrożyły mi sprawę płyty strunowe - potrebne były aż 3 bo nie chcieliśmy mieć podciągów na stropie jakby to było w przypadku krótszych płyt. Strunowe mamy o długości 8,50 (przez całą szerokość domu- bo nie ma tam ścian nośnich i nie byłoby o co opszeć żerania).
Chyba mi się buzia zaczyna uśmiechać jak piszecie że taki strop to 'fajny' strop icon_wink.gif
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a jaki był koszt tych strunowych ?
Co to znaczy podciągi przy płytach żarańskich ?


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Nie widze stali do balkonu i wienca, kosztu szalunku wienca i robocizny. Wtedy moznaby mowic o koszcie kompletnego stropu na 1 m2.
Dla porownania mnie strop lany (znaczy sie zelbetowy) kosztowal ok 100 zl/m2 - koszt calkowity.
Pozdrawiam.



Dla jakiej powierzchni ? Co z ceną szalunku ?
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Przy porównywalnych cenach (a nawet lepszych dla monilitu) to monolit lepszy (bo cieńszy ?).

Możesz podać rozkład kosztów w monilicie ?
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U nas strop z płyt pref. ze wszystkim /transport, dźwig, robocizna/ wyszedł poniżej 100 zł/metr. A układanie trwało dosłownie chwilę. W dwa dni był gotowy cały strop /łacznie z zalaniem szczelin/.
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Przy porównywalnych cenach (a nawet lepszych dla monilitu) to monolit lepszy (bo cieńszy ?).

Możesz podać rozkład kosztów w monilicie ?


Szczegóły w moim dzienniku budowy (tak bliżej początku).
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u nas monolit około 100/m2, troche wiecej niz 100, bo zbrojenia wiecej dałem profilaktycznie

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